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Which Japanese fighter next in AH?
« on: January 15, 2002, 06:43:09 AM »
Which Japanese fighter are you interested in seeing HTC add next?

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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2002, 03:57:53 PM »
Great Poll, oboe! :)

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Sidenote about Ki.100
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2002, 08:30:12 PM »
Mitsu,

do you know what made the Ki.100 a great combat aircraft?  The limited performance statistics I have on the airplane show a non-spectacular max speed and climb rate.  

The plane has a very good reputation, but I think I'd feel safer in a Ki.84.  

Thanks!

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Re: Sidenote about Ki.100
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2002, 09:19:21 PM »
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Mitsu,

do you know what made the Ki.100 a great combat aircraft?  The limited performance statistics I have on the airplane show a non-spectacular max speed and climb rate.  

The plane has a very good reputation, but I think I'd feel safer in a Ki.84.  

Thanks!


The Ki-100 radial engine gave it outstanding reliability versus the Ki-61s inline engine. Also the Ki-100 could perform well at very high altitudes which made it a much better option for intercepting high flying B-29s.

So while the Ki-61 may be faster, in the field is was hard to maintain and often didnt hit the rated engine output because of maintainance troubles. The ki-100 was familiar(used radial) and reliable.

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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2002, 10:56:57 PM »
Thanks for responding Silo.

It must be something more than just reliability though.  I had read somewhere about its high altitude performance - it had a special supercharger arrangement or something.    

I've never seen any charts on its performance though.

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Re: Re: Sidenote about Ki.100
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2002, 11:14:51 PM »
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The Ki-100 radial engine gave it outstanding reliability versus the Ki-61s inline engine. Also the Ki-100 could perform well at very high altitudes which made it a much better option for intercepting high flying B-29s.

So while the Ki-61 may be faster, in the field is was hard to maintain and often didnt hit the rated engine output because of maintainance troubles. The ki-100 was familiar(used radial) and reliable.


Kawasaki deserved credit for converting from an inverted V-12 to a radial, and managing to blend that large diameter engine into that narrow fuselage. Nonetheless, the Ki-100 can't hope to measure up to the hype that currently surrounds it.

AH currently has two IJN fighters in the A6M5 and NiK2-J, while only offering the Ki-61 as a representative of JAAF fighters. Surely, if HTC decides to include another Japanese fighter, it should be an Army model, preferably one of the Nakajimas.

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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2002, 01:07:01 AM »
Silo, you may be talking about Ki-100-II.
True, it had supercharger, and it was better than Ki-61 or Ki-100-II at high alt in test.
but it hasn't been mass-produced before the end of the war (only 3 prototypes have been built).
I think that Ki-100-I's high alt performance was common as compared to any Japanese fighters.

Well, oboe,
Ki-100-I is much better than Ki-61-I-Tei (it's known as Ki-61-I-KAIc in AH).
Ki-61-I-KAIc was too heavy in I models, its merit was only it has 20mm cannons.
And, Ki-61-I-KAIc's advantage against Ki-100 is only dive performance, I think.

Ki-100-I's Advantages (almost against Ki-61-I-KAIc):
1) reliable in the war.
2) 105kg lighter than Ki-61-I-KAIc (330kg lighter against Ki-61-II).
3) Better maneuverability and handling by shorter nose, and removed heavy radiator and weight balance.
4) Slower stall speed.
5) Better climb performance.
6) Better power loading by powerful engine.
7) Good dive performance like Ki-61.
8) Good armament. 2 Ho-5 20mm cannon on nose have 250 rounds per gun! (KAIc has 120 rds. per gun)
9) More longer cruising range (1400km without DT, 2200km with 1 DT).

Famous Ki-100 Kills:
244th Sentai's Ki-100-Is have killed 7 F4Us by 3 loss in 1945/6/3.
111st Sentai's 12 Ki-100-Is have killed 11 P-51s by 3 loss in 1945/7/15.
244th Sentai's 10 or more Ki-100-Is have killed 10 F6Fs by 2 loss in 1945/7/25.

244th Sentai's Fighter pilot said "Ki-61 was most good against B-29, but Ki-100 was more good against B-29 and enemy fighters."

so, it would be not best in AH, but be nice plane. :)

-Mitsu

P.S
If I can, I wanna tell you about Japanese WWII military aircraft references in Japan.
because English Japanese WWII aircraft data has a lot of errors...
But unfortunately, my english is really crappy! :(

Widewing,
SUPERFLY can make Ki-100 easily by using Ki-61 airframe... :cool:
« Last Edit: January 16, 2002, 01:43:04 AM by Mitsu »

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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2002, 01:16:46 AM »
I want Ki-100-I-b (bubble canopy model) in Aces High. :cool:



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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2002, 01:43:36 AM »
Err... 250 rounds per gun?!!! Oh My!
Thanks for the clarification (as usual :cool:) ) Mitsu.

Once I get my Web Pages up, I will be bothering you a lot :D


EDIT: Would you happen to know around what month/year the IJN stopped using the 100 round Type 99 drum and started using belt ammo to increase the ammo load?
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2002, 02:07:33 AM »
Japanese WWII military website says Type-99 model 2 mod 4 (belt ammo) has started to be produced from October 1943. and production of Type-99 model 1 mod 4 (is belt ammo too) has stopped in February 1945.

Sorry Silo, I don't know about IJN well.

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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2002, 02:27:50 AM »
Thought the KI-100 was as fast as the P51 and able to out turn, out climb, and out dive it?

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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2002, 03:11:33 AM »
> KI-100 was as fast as the P51

Nope.

> and able to out turn

Yes.

> out climb

A bit better.

> and out dive it?

It may catch Pony.

result:
P51 is uber, perk it! :p

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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2002, 03:21:49 AM »
This page is talking correctly about Ki-100 history.

http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/baugher_other/ki100.html

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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2002, 04:10:36 AM »
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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2002, 04:23:08 AM »
Mitsu, please, post famous kills of Ki-84 and others japan planes, if possible.